Rainbow Brite UK wrote:Then I watched the animated short again....and I noticed the title screen gave another clue. In the corner of the title screen you will find these.
A Sun, a Rainbow, a Moon, A CLOUD
I take this as a sign....a "Stormy" seems to be coming.
Great catch!! I didn't notice those images at the corners at all! I bet you're exactly right
And where on earth are ya'll getting the idea that Stormy is the villain?? Moonglow says "It's not working, PB. The Dark Princess' magic is too strong!"
FanChan wrote:I'm allowed to be dissatisfied with what seems like a half-assed attempt at what was so-far released. Will they raise the bar and release things of a much higher quality in the future? I sure hope so. But I can't help being realistic.
Exactly what kind of budget are you expecting them to have? This is Rainbow Brite we're talking about here...not Transformers. As much as we love it, we've known for years that RB just doesn't have the fanbase that shows like TF and He-Man do. So we can't expect them to throw millions of dollars at an idea that MIGHT sell and might not. With the limited budget I'm sure they're working with (especially in today's economy), I think they've done a damn good job. The graphics on that site are nothing short of amazing. You say you're being realistic, but I don't quite think you are. Your expectations seem a bit inflated.
Rainbow Brite wrote:Exactly what kind of budget are you expecting them to have? This is Rainbow Brite we're talking about here...not Transformers. As much as we love it, we've known for years that RB just doesn't have the fanbase that shows like TF and He-Man do. So we can't expect them to throw millions of dollars at an idea that MIGHT sell and might not. With the limited budget I'm sure they're working with (especially in today's economy), I think they've done a damn good job. The graphics on that site are nothing short of amazing. You say you're being realistic, but I don't quite think you are. Your expectations seem a bit inflated.
Nothing short of amazing? Yeah, I'm tired of this now. I think it sucks. Period. I've offered my reasons why, but no one wants to pay attention to that, so I'm done. Enjoy this crap if you want. I'm finished here.
"I hope you know what you're doing, Rainbow."
"You still doubt me, after all this time?"
"I don't doubt," Krys said as he paused at the door. "I worry."
FanChan wrote:I'm allowed to be dissatisfied with what seems like a half-assed attempt at what was so-far released. Will they raise the bar and release things of a much higher quality in the future? I sure hope so. But I can't help being realistic.
Exactly what kind of budget are you expecting them to have? This is Rainbow Brite we're talking about here...not Transformers. As much as we love it, we've known for years that RB just doesn't have the fanbase that shows like TF and He-Man do. So we can't expect them to throw millions of dollars at an idea that MIGHT sell and might not. With the limited budget I'm sure they're working with (especially in today's economy), I think they've done a damn good job. The graphics on that site are nothing short of amazing. You say you're being realistic, but I don't quite think you are. Your expectations seem a bit inflated.
I would disagree with this. You don't need millions of dollars to make better flash animation. We're not asking for CGI stuff here. It's flash for goodness sakes. You need people who know how to make flash smooth and fluid, and you need better voice actors, which is the other complaint. There's no differentiation, they all sound the same with very little emotion. You can get that from anyone; I saw it at Kuro with the voice acting session. Those kids were high schoolers and college kids and some of them could have done a much better job, while some of them sounded just like that cartoon short. No, RB is not on the same level as other 80's cartoons, but it does not deserve this kind of treatment.
"If you're obsessed with your yesterday then you're destined to repeat it." - Ariel of Icon for Hire
Chibi Rachy wrote:I would disagree with this. You don't need millions of dollars to make better flash animation. We're not asking for CGI stuff here. It's flash for goodness sakes. You need people who know how to make flash smooth and fluid, and you need better voice actors, which is the other complaint. There's no differentiation, they all sound the same with very little emotion. You can get that from anyone; I saw it at Kuro with the voice acting session. Those kids were high schoolers and college kids and some of them could have done a much better job, while some of them sounded just like that cartoon short. No, RB is not on the same level as other 80's cartoons, but it does not deserve this kind of treatment.
You might not need millions, but you need a lot. High quality flash animation and professional voice actors cost money. Period. You say RB doesn't "deserve" this type of treatment, as if they're purposely making it crap. That's ridiculous. They're trying to sell something here, hence they're going to make it as high quality as their budget allows. The fact that it's not higher quality means that they couldn't afford it right now. But once the dolls start selling, hopefully that will change. And if not, hell, at least they're trying! This site is already more than we got with the last 2 iterations of RB and I'm very thankful for it.
Chibi Rachy wrote:I would disagree with this. You don't need millions of dollars to make better flash animation. We're not asking for CGI stuff here. It's flash for goodness sakes. You need people who know how to make flash smooth and fluid, and you need better voice actors, which is the other complaint. There's no differentiation, they all sound the same with very little emotion. You can get that from anyone; I saw it at Kuro with the voice acting session. Those kids were high schoolers and college kids and some of them could have done a much better job, while some of them sounded just like that cartoon short. No, RB is not on the same level as other 80's cartoons, but it does not deserve this kind of treatment.
You might not need millions, but you need a lot. High quality flash animation and professional voice actors cost money. Period. You say RB doesn't "deserve" this type of treatment, as if they're purposely making it crap. That's ridiculous. They're trying to sell something here, hence they're going to make it as high quality as their budget allows. The fact that it's not higher quality means that they couldn't afford it right now. But once the dolls start selling, hopefully that will change. And if not, hell, at least they're trying! This site is already more than we got with the last 2 iterations of RB and I'm very thankful for it.
Ah do not twist my words. I said she doesn't deserve that kind of treatment. I never said that they were "making it crap" on purpose. They are trying to sell something, which seems to be their motive. The site was released earlier than it was supposed to be and the dolls are coming late. There was no need to release a site that has no product to go with it yet. The only thing that site is doing is garnering the old fans in hopes it'll woo them to buy for their daughters, nieces, etc, and get them hooked, but as has been said on this board by some who are old fans, they don't like it either. The site though is not the issue. Had it only been a site without the cartoon, I'm sure it would have gone over better. However, it's the quality of the cartoon that bothers some and is what we disagree on.
"If you're obsessed with your yesterday then you're destined to repeat it." - Ariel of Icon for Hire
Chibi Rachy wrote:I would disagree with this. You don't need millions of dollars to make better flash animation. We're not asking for CGI stuff here. It's flash for goodness sakes. You need people who know how to make flash smooth and fluid, and you need better voice actors, which is the other complaint. There's no differentiation, they all sound the same with very little emotion. You can get that from anyone; I saw it at Kuro with the voice acting session. Those kids were high schoolers and college kids and some of them could have done a much better job, while some of them sounded just like that cartoon short. No, RB is not on the same level as other 80's cartoons, but it does not deserve this kind of treatment.
You might not need millions, but you need a lot. High quality flash animation and professional voice actors cost money. Period. You say RB doesn't "deserve" this type of treatment, as if they're purposely making it crap. That's ridiculous. They're trying to sell something here, hence they're going to make it as high quality as their budget allows. The fact that it's not higher quality means that they couldn't afford it right now. But once the dolls start selling, hopefully that will change. And if not, hell, at least they're trying! This site is already more than we got with the last 2 iterations of RB and I'm very thankful for it.
I too am thrilled that Rainbow Brite is making a comeback, even if it's not quite like the 80's. You have to remember that this is targeted towards younger kids like 4-8 years old. Who's to say they won't add on to it more in the future. I'm sure once the toys do well, they may start making them look like the vintage too like they did with some of the MLP, Carebear and Strawberry Shortcake toys.
Like I said in my previous post, some of the news we got earlier this year was a bit inaccurate, so they may or may not release the toys before the holidays. I am glad that Rainbow Brite is coming back, and it is better than nothing.
Chibi Rachy wrote:The site though is not the issue. Had it only been a site without the cartoon, I'm sure it would have gone over better. However, it's the quality of the cartoon that bothers some and is what we disagree on.
I don't think we disagree on the quality of the animation. I don't think it's great quality either - but it's merely a teaser. It's not something they would put on TV, so I don't expect it to be perfect. Therefore, I can enjoy it for what it is.
Aquarious wrote:I too am thrilled that Rainbow Brite is making a comeback, even if it's not quite like the 80's. You have to remember that this is targeted towards younger kids like 4-8 years old. Who's to say they won't add on to it more in the future. I'm sure once the toys do well, they may start making them look like the vintage too like they did with some of the MLP, Carebear and Strawberry Shortcake toys.
Like I said in my previous post, some of the news we got earlier this year was a bit inaccurate, so they may or may not release the toys before the holidays. I am glad that Rainbow Brite is coming back, and it is better than nothing.
It's not the vintage look I care about at this point. It's the quality of the animation. Take that away, and things are fine. The site itself is good and I'm resigned to the AU destiny of the storyline. It's just the quality of some of the work that bothers me. What I'm concerned about is the quality of the dolls being similar to the quality of the animation. We need good quality toys, not toys made just to sell and make as much as possible.
I simply expect the computer animation to be smoother than that. It would have been fine but it's so clunky. I know it's not what they'd put on TV, but it's also not the best they could have done with it either. Make it less clunky, and get better voice actors and then it'd be suitable.
"If you're obsessed with your yesterday then you're destined to repeat it." - Ariel of Icon for Hire
Would you not rather have them stick their funds into production of the merchandise tho than costly flash animators and voice actors? I didn't like it either, to be perfectly honest, but I'd imagine there's considerably more time and effort spent in making the actual product, the one thing that will make them money in the end. And the website is like them telling us "we are still working on this, RB will come" .. nothing more but nothing less, just a teaser.
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